DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES: Season 2

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Originally Posted by moovyphreak A nice return-to-form last night for the show. The only times it slowed down was when they force fed the Applewhite plot in. George’s dispatch of Bree’s therapist was both funny and quite frightening.

Agreed on both points. The only positive thing to come out of it was when Gabby fell down the stairs and might have miscarried. I’m not saying it’s positive because I wanted her to miscarry but because it was the first step in Gabby caring about someone other than herself.

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I just know there’s a deleted scene somewhere that will make sense of that scene. Actually, for a second I thought Matthew might be the killer and was just setting up Caleb because Caleb is so slow. But then that wouldn’t make much sense with Caleb talking about “she deserved it” and all that.

I definitely enjoyed last night’s ep more so than the rest, but this season is definitely subpar from last. This article brings up some reasons why the show has lost its stride:

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The first-season finale of “Desperate Housewives” was a model of perfection. All of the storylines that had developed throughout 23 episodes came together and were resolved, except for one. Ending with both resolution and a minor cliffhanger let the season finale offer both satisfaction and anticipation, unlike its ABC counterpart “Lost,” which cheated its way through its season finale. When the second season of “Desperate Housewives” debuted, the lingering plotline was resolved when Mike rescued Susan and Zach ran away. And then the series choked on its own conceit, revealing that, on Wisteria Lane, our attraction to the series may have always been as fake as the grass in front of the flawless phony facades. With Mary Alice’s storyline all but finished, her narration now makes little sense. Instead of telling her story, she’s just eavesdropping on her neighbors and friends, and her advice has been revealed to be clichéd thoughts that belong on Successories, not in a show that was presumed to be witty and smart. This season, Lynette is still relentlessly stunted by her out-of-control children, even though she’s working full-time. At her new job, she has another child to deal with: her boss, who’s more of a caricature of an overblown stereotype than an actual character. New playmates for Lynette’s twin boys offered hope for relief, but of course, that ended before it even began. Gabrielle is still playing the spoiled, childish vixen, and she continues to toy with Carlos even though he’s in jail. She’s pregnant (or is she, after this week’s fall?) and allegedly getting bigger, but neither her body nor her behavior indicates that she’ll be a mother in a half a year or so. Trying to fit into a dress, she enlisted her new gardeners’ help. All three actors valiantly pretended to struggle to get the dress onto her all-too-perfect frame, but not even they believed it. Later, talking to Bree, Gabrielle insisted that she’s grown, but Gabi spoke for the audience when she said, “I’ve changed, and I honestly don’t know how.” Neither do we, because the show’s given us nothing by way of growth or development. Despite the hype, “Desperate Housewives” has never approached that level of televised drama, nor has it tried. The series created its own niche, a sort of dramatic fairy tale. But the series took itself too seriously and got swept up in the mystery of Mary Alice’s unexpected suicide. All that did, it now seems, was distract from the fact that not much was going on. Viewers caught up in the mystery never became aware of the absence of depth, because the mystery was fun to watch. This season, without the cover of Mary Alice’s story, the show’s Botox is starting to wear off, and what’s really there are just characters running on treadmills in front of moving backgrounds, trying to convince us that they’re covering significant distances. “Desperate Housewives” creator and writer Marc Cherry worked as a writer on the NBC sitcom “The Golden Girls,” which debuted 20 years ago. Despite its age, the sitcom has flourished on Lifetime, watched in college dorm rooms perhaps more than in nursing homes. The series has survived because its plotlines were superficial, serving as excuses to set up hysterical but forgettable jokes. The only other thing that mattered was the interaction between Dorothy, Blanche, Rose, and Sophia, as it provided the foundation for the series’ acerbic humor and wit. Especially since ABC let “Desperate Housewives” compete as a comedy series in the Emmys, Cherry needs to look to his sitcom past. Standalone episodes that allow his main characters to interact around quick, resolvable, throwaway stories will draw on the series’ two major strengths: its main characters and the actors who portray them. “Desperate Housewives” is desperately seeking a rescue from its purgatory, and for that happy ending, it needs a new beginning.

I disagreee with pretty much every point that author makes and it to me it just sounds like sour grapes.

Well it basically agreed with your point that the Applewhite mystery is completely disengaged from any of the plots surrounding the main characters.

I do agree with the point that the character development is slim to none. We could replace Susan, Bree, Lynette, and Gabrielle from this season with their characters from last season and not see any difference in personality. One gripe about network sitcoms is that the characters are just shallow, stereotypical people confined to those parameters because they must squueze in “x” amount of jokes in a half hour timeslot, with each episode standing alone in terms of plot. DH has a full hour to devote to these things and yet the dramatic elements aren’t that dramatic, the comedic elements aren’t that comedic, and the characters don’t learn from any of their mistakes.

I’m not saying I don’t enjoy this show. I just don’t think it lives up to the hype that it garnered last season as a smart and witty dramedy. DH is really just a glorified night time soap and, for me, it works on that level.

See, I strongly disagree on the accusation of the characters being shallow in exchange for jokes. If anything, it’s backed off those kinds of jokes and gone some pretty dark and depressing places. I think the perfect example is Susan running out in the wedding dress to get Mike to stay. Usually, it would be seem like another one of those hilariously embarassing moments for her but instead it’s gut-wrenching. It’s almost like they’re daring us to laugh in spite of her circumstance and we can see that despite the heightened reality of a soap opera world, these characters are continuing to grow and the reason Mary Alice continues to narrate is because she used to be one of them. She can never grow and change like them so it’s her blessing and curse to tell their story now that her’s is over.

As for character development, this season again goes places I didn’t expect. I didn’t expect Mike and Susan to be split apart so soon and I don’t know where that storyline will go. The reason characters usually split up is that writers have this idiotic fear of the Sam-and-Diane scenario where if they put two characters together, then the sexual tension between them becomes boring and their relationship becomes boring and I think that’s just lazy, uncreative writing. Anyone who’s ever been in a romantic relationship can tell you that drama tends to abound where ever love is concerned. So if these two characters are apart, then the writers did it in an attempt to either A) break the “relationship boredom” and/or B) needed them apart for something greater they have planned. Furthermore, it was a good breakup because it lives in the grey area. Susan lied to Mike and sent Zach away but only because she was trying to protect Julie. There’s no real “bad guy” between them (other than Zach. Zach’s a bad guy) .

As for the other storylines, well if you’re not as intrigued and disturbed by Bree’s storyline as I am then you’re kinda disturbing yourself. George is such a great villain because his actions (up until the killing of Dr. Goldfine…that was surreal) are motivated by his own pathetic nature. And Bree doesn’t see it because she’s too polite. I do think it was a mistake to send Andrew away (again, great villain although not as realistic as George), Bree’s in a dark place and she doesn’t even know it. She was date raped by the man who killed her husband! Does this not strike anyone else as incredibly fucked-up?

And contrary to what that writer is saying, Gabby has developed and you can slowly see it with her getting back with Carlos and refusing the advances of the lawyer. She didn’t want to become pregnant and she didn’t want to change even though she recognized her current life was unintended. This plays perfectly to her getting something unintended and her getting something she never knew she wanted. While the dress-fitting scene may have been played for cheap laughs, I enjoyed the use of symbolism.

Finally, I will say that Lynette is kind of stuck in rut when she doesn’t need to be. I think her boss is an amusing character but a non-sensical one because Lynette had an offer to come back and work for her old firm (the only explanation for why she didn’t is, I assume, that perhaps the job would require them to move back to where they came from before Wisteria Lane and they didn’t want to uproot the family. Again, this is just assumption and it’s never been explained why Lynette didn’t go back to her old company). But Tom’s got a secret and it’s just sitting there unused. Also, I don’t think the other family with twins was some grand opportunity as it only solved a simple project of Lynette finding downtime for herself. It was a comedic subplot and nothing more and it’s silly to think that it was just brimming with potential. Also, speaking of the Scavos, I want to say kudos to the make-up department for making Tom look completely haggard this season. It’s a small but necessary detail to his new life as a stay-at-home dad.

This just seems to be the no-win world of television story arcs coming to life and why shows without them (CSI, Law & Order, ER) succeed. If you have a story arc, then you’re either like Lost and people will complain that you’re not giving them enough answers and if you come to a satisfying conclusion to a mystery like they did last season, then you’re boring. Personally, I think they should drop the whole mystery angle altogether and find more time to have these women interact with each other.

A few notes:

  • That intro was so amazing. I hope that Roger Bart gets some sort of nomination for his work this season. And we need to see more of Bree shooting stuff while fashionably attired.

  • I still don’t understand why Lynette is working at this firm under this uber-bitch of a boss.

  • I’m glad we’re done with the prison stuff. That well was quickly running dry.

  • A knockout? Gabrielle, of all people, should be able to identify hotness and that nun ain’t it.

  • Dr. Goldfine’s alive!

  • Nina’s out, Lynette’s in! Another problem solved! And new problems arise!

  • “What the hell kind of nun are you?”

  • Seriously, that nun is not attractive at all. She looks like a pale man in a blonde wig.

  • And George’s treachery is uncovered! Huzzah for sweeps!

  • I loved that brief shot of Bree in the elevator with the distorted mirror image of her coming into focus as she stepped forward.

Wow. What a completely excellent episode. Best one so far. That’s what happens when you remove the fucking Applewhites from the picture.

Loved the stuff with Susan and her real father until she let him off the hook.

“You expect me to calm your irrational fears? I expect you to calm mine.” What a great moment. I thought Doug Savant gave his strongest performance yet.

The dude looking at porn was “a secret addiction that consume our souls?” I’m usually a fan of Mary Alice’s closing words, but that just sounds puritanical.

And I know that the reveal of Mrs. Huber’s sister was supposed to be shocking, but I don’t know how. So she’s Bob Gunton’s nurse. So what? Is she going to reveal that Mike didn’t really kill the person truly responsible for Diedre’s death? After last week’s strong episode, this episode felt dull and lifeless. I didn’t care about Gabby’s internet photos and the only interesting aspect was her attempt to turn Carlos back to the dark side. Susan was back to her old tricks and the age differential between her and the doctor is a little icky. And Bree was just a real Catch-U-Next-Thursday this episode towards people that were trying to be nice to her. I mean, her defensiveness is realistic enough, but usually her character is played with a good mixture of laughable-WASP and sympathetic-victim. The only strong storyline was between Tom and Lynette. I think it’s clear we’re gearing up towards something major involving their relationship.

And the sooner the Applewhites get off Wisteria Lane, the better. If you’re going to give us something dark and sinister, then let it be with people we know and care about, not aloof strangers.

This week, the Applewhites finally got interesting and the show finally took advantage of Alfre Woodard’s tremendous talent. Granted, while nothing is coming close to the drama of last season, I now care about the Applewhites because they’ve become intwined with the Van de Kamps.

I also think that we’re going to be in for some good comedy between Lynette, Tom, and their boss Ed.

And the fight between Gabby and the nun was a highlight of this season. Now the if the writers can:

  1. Throw some curveballs into the currently non-interesting storylines of Gabby and Susan

  2. Jump into the far more interesting storyline of Mike and Zach

then this season may actually earn that Golden Globe it just won.

A few notes:

  • That would have been a perfect opening had they not reached for the bad joke of “proof was in the pudding”.

  • Jesus. I mean, Bree has been a bitch before, but what she said to Danielle about lacking cunning, wit, and insight was just mean.

  • Bree’s wall of keys is gonna be a problem for the writers later on. Every time there’s some hidden information, people are gonna ask, “why not just hit up the wall of keys?”

  • Always good to see the Chinlund at work.

  • I’m continually amazed at how Longoria can keep playing such a dispicable character and stay so likable. I mean, by all rights, I should recoil with disgust at pretty much everything she does, but who can recoil at Longoria?

  • Part of me feels like what Betty told Bree about Caleb is not the whole story. I keep thinking that Matthew is the real killer.

  • I do find that the seperate storylines are now at odds with each other, with Mike and Bree/Betty’s being the ones worth focusing on and Susan, Lynette, and Gabrielle’s stories as humorous sidenotes. Also, it looks like Bree’s much-touted battle with alcoholism will begin next week, which means they played it poorly. Yes, the drinking has been hinted at before, but it’s been sporadic and of little importance.

This show seems to be finding its legs again after a weak first quarter of a season. I don’t think it deserved the Golden Globe, but it’s still watchable.

“Its still watchable.”

That’s a ringing endorsement. Eh, I can’t be bothered to tune in anymore.

I stopped watching for a while… seems like they might be able to piece this thing back together.

Last Sunday’s episode was really good. Seems like the show is picking back up.

Bree’s alcohol addiction really came into the spotlight after Lynette put the bottles on her front porch.

Digging into some darker stuff, but still holding the comedy up. Nothing like the first season though.

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Originally Posted by Jason P. Thompson Digging into some darker stuff, but still holding the comedy up. Nothing like the first season though.

I totally agree. It’s a shame too, but I guess they just backed the wrong horse with the Applewhites storyline. It would have been better to focus on what they have right now with the Zach-Noah-Mike-Paul drama.

Exactly. That’s what the ended the season with, that’s what they should have continued to build on. I bet they didn’t know where they were taking it so they had to use the Applewhites as filler.

Next week looks to be really good. Bree’s son probably is using makeup to make Bree believe she beat the shit out of him. That guy always has an agenda of his own…

With no Applewhite storyline this past week, the show gets surprisingly better.

And the salon owner was played by Jo Marie Payton a.k.a. Harriette from Family Matters. I can’t believe that show was on for 9 years.

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Originally Posted by Jason P. Thompson Next week looks to be really good. Bree’s son probably is using makeup to make Bree believe she beat the shit out of him. That guy always has an agenda of his own…

on the subject of the applewhites, I have to say, I like the “new kid on the block” mystery /intrigue aspect, but I think the way the writers handled it is the problem. It has been the background of this whole season, whereas the mystery was in the foreground of all of season one.

And as far as the bruise/makeup on the bree’s son’s face, it could have been someone else who beat him up, too.

Overall, I still enjoy and try to catch the show, but I think they strayed to far from what worked best in season one.

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A few months ago Joel had a few complaints, mainly about seeing so many senior TV stars (like Carol Burnett) in crappy insurance commercials. Well, hopefully we won’t be seeing her in those spots anymore because Burnett just signed on to guest star in an upcoming episode of Desperate Housewives. Burnett plays Bree Van De Kamp’s stepmother Eleanor Mason and apparently she’s going to be very bitchy. At least that’s what Burnett told show creator Marc Cherry to make the character. Eleanor shows up after Bree’s son Andrew starts dropping some family secrets. So let me get this straight: a moody, bitchy stepmom on Wisteria Lane? Yeah, I think that’ll fit in just fine. The episode is set to air on April 9.

Source: http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/03/03/ca...wisteria-lane/

“Now how did you know I like macaroons?”

Along with Ms. Rowland at the adoption agency, this has been the first really great episode in a while, mostly because it brings back the first season’s wicked sense of humor.