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Great article Devin. I would absolutely LOVE for the film to have that effect on the public. Something tells me it won’t, after seeing their reaction of apathy to the whole privacy issue, but if it does, I’ll love this film forever.
It’ll take more than a movie to change the general public’s POV and apathy. But this is part of a wave of movies that are challenging people to think, and it’s the first one that is going to appeal to impressionable 13 and 14 year olds.
I think we’re really going to need people like O’Reilly rallying against it for people to notice. If conservatives just ignore it, I can see the message flying right over people’s heads, with it just fading out as hollywood action fare.
I don’t think the message is even remotely missable. It’s pretty heavy handed.
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| Originally Posted by devincf I don’t think the message is even remotely missable. It’s pretty heavy handed. |
Well I guess I’ve just lost confidence in the general public’s ability to grasp unmissable concepts.
I want to respond to this article and even though I’ve read the graphic novel, I feel like if I talk about the film without seeing it(even though you’re talking more about thematic issues within the work), then I’m no better than the shmucks over at Libertas.
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| Originally Posted by devincf But this is part of a wave of movies that are challenging people to think, and it’s the first one that is going to appeal to impressionable 13 and 14 year olds. |
Do you really feel that this film will change the way tweens think about these kinds of issues, if they think of them at all? I’m all for movies that challenge the audience, and I’m very much looking forward to this one, but I hardly feel that changing how a 13 year old feels about something is going to have any lasting impact whatsover.
If O’Reilly doesn’t rip and crucify V for Vendetta I’m sure someone at Fox News Channel will.
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| Originally Posted by Flaparoo Do you really feel that this film will change the way tweens think about these kinds of issues, if they think of them at all? I’m all for movies that challenge the audience, and I’m very much looking forward to this one, but I hardly feel that changing how a 13 year old feels about something is going to have any lasting impact whatsover. |
I was maybe 12 or 13 when I came across a book called “The Tales of Hoffman: From the Trial of the Chicago 8/7” and it changed the whole course of my thinking and my life.
I guess I just have less faith in the youth of today than the youths of past, but hopefully they will prove me wrong.
I hate that attitude. The youth of your generation were huge retards too. And I don’t even know how old you are.
You’re a generation removed from today’s 13 and 14 year olds. While I want to believe that they’ll care, do you really see that sort of budding activism as a nascent quality in today’s young teenagers?
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| Originally Posted by devincf I hate that attitude. The youth of your generation were huge retards too. And I don’t even know how old you are. |
Still applies.
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| Originally Posted by devincf I hate that attitude. The youth of your generation were huge retards too. And I don’t even know how old you are. |
It’s not about the youth, it’s about the cultural environment. You’re what, 31? The world of 1988 is not the same as 2006 and the amount of information thrown at today’s young people is growing at an exponential rate.
Yeah, the 80s were worse.
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| Originally Posted by devincf I hate that attitude. The youth of your generation were huge retards too. And I don’t even know how old you are. |
Right, and many of them have stayed retards as evidenced by our current political and cultural climate.
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| Originally Posted by devincf Yeah, the 80s were worse. |
I’m not going to argue with that.
And many of them haven’t. I have the feeling you’re entering the field of making statements where you don’t have a lot of information.
You are, I am assuming, basing “involved youth” on the 60s, when the “involved youth” were living under the cloud of a draft, which really changes the whole landscape. Yet without a draft, tens of thousands of Americans have still taken to the streets in anti-war demonstrations in this country.
I can’t help but have that attitude when I think about the environment that kids are growing up in today. I realize that as kids we all like stupid shit because that is just how it is, but it just seems like every stupid thing kids are into is even stupider than stuff in the past. And just so you know, I am 21 and I’ve worked at a major toy store for over 4 years, so I have seen firsthand the kinds of things that appear to be popular with kids these days. Now I know judging a generation based on what toys they like is pretty stupid, but it isn’t completely. When your biggest selling toys are a group of whore dolls aimed at 10 year old girls and Tamogatchi 2.0, then I just have a hard time believing that these kids are really going to be thinking for themselves all that much for at least a couple more years. For everything that I felt and thought I knew at 12 years old that I still feel the same way about, there are probably 100 other things that I have changed my mind on. I guess I basically just intended to say that I would assume it could have a potentially greater impact on say, 16 or 17 year olds as opposed to 13 and 14 year olds.