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I still haven’t heard what, exactly was said to her other than “hoots and hollers,” but my god… if you go into an NFL locker room looking like that… what, exactly is SUPPOSED to happen? Not exactly “professional” reporter attire. More like “is she actually a hired stripper posing as a reporter?” attire.
Yeah, wearing a T-Shirt and Jeans! She was asking for it!
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| Originally Posted by joeypants View Post I still haven’t heard what, exactly was said to her other than “hoots and hollers,” but my god… |
I remember the good old days when “hoots and hollers” was a good thing.
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| Originally Posted by Spike Marshall View Post Yeah, wearing a T-Shirt and Jeans! She was asking for it! |
Wow, only one post for that response. Seriously, that’s not “just” t-shirt and jeans. And it’s not like she was touched/raped.
I don’t know what was said, so I suppose there’s a chance something was over the line in there, but seeing as how she’s press, I doubt it.
The “don’t you dare suggest she was asking for it” is always valid in terms of assault. Here… not so much.
Bill Simmons wrote about this in the opening of his column today:
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| Did we really learn anything? Women should dress and act professionally if they want to be taken seriously as sports journalists? We knew that already. Professional football players have the capacity to become hooting construction workers while in the presence of someone clearly striving to be a sex symbol and not a reporter? We knew that already, too. Translation: We learned nothing. That didn’t stop some from making it seem like we DID learn something – for every measured, thoughtful piece from writers like Ashley Fox and Jemele Hill – there was someone turning InesGate into Lisa Olson, The Sequel. As Fox wrote, “If you’re going to dress like you’re going to a bar, then guess what? You might get treated like you’re at a bar.” Blame both sides, don’t make it into something bigger than it was and don’t say you learned anything. Because you didn’t. |
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| Originally Posted by joeypants View Post I still haven’t heard what, exactly was said to her other than “hoots and hollers,” but my god… if you go into an NFL locker room looking like that… what, exactly is SUPPOSED to happen? |
I need to know what “hoots and hollers” constitutes…
So I guess women at the beach in bikinis are fair game now. I mean, look at them!
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| Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post So I guess women at the beach in bikinis are fair game now. I mean, look at them! |
Yeah, I guess it’s too much to expect grown-ass men to act like the adults they should be…so we have to go with what we can control.
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| Originally Posted by joeypants View Post Wow, only one post for that response. Seriously, that’s not “just” t-shirt and jeans. And it’s not like she was touched/raped. I don’t know what was said, so I suppose there’s a chance something was over the line in there, but seeing as how she’s press, I doubt it. The “don’t you dare suggest she was asking for it” is always valid in terms of assault. Here… not so much. |
You are such an astonishing asshole.
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| Originally Posted by Mangy View Post Bill Simmons wrote about this in the opening of his column today: |
Was just about to post that.
It goes without saying that the players could’ve conducted themselves better. They are neanderthals however, and are paid for it. What’s so shocking? Sure, you can expect them to act more civilized.
I can also expect Rush Limbaugh to exercise responsibility.
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| Originally Posted by The LD View Post You are such an astonishing asshole. |
And you’re apparently an astonishingly uptight bore. What’s new?
If it was “hoots and holars” like orangutan vocalizations, just meaningless noise essentially, then that’s one thing. If untoward ideas were expressed verbally.. that’s another. I know that everyone is supposed to excuse that kind of behavior because the men involved are “just football players”, but IMHO those players and their teams benefit from public dollars in the form of stadium tax breaks ETC and as such are accountable to a higher standard. “Just football players?” If a janitor or secretary acted like that in the work place, they’d be fired. They are just as essential to our society – if not more so – as sport stars and yet time and time again it’s the athletes who think they are above the law. Despite making tens of millions of dollars and gaining the admiration of total strangers, these “professionals” choose to act as if they’re engaged in a perpetual rowdy-dow. This is an ongoing and troubling trend with athletes, and the attitude that such lewd behavior is permissible from people in their line of employment has often lead to tragic results.
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| Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post So I guess women at the beach in bikinis are fair game now. I mean, look at them! |
I didn’t know the beach was a business, where 99.99% of people were fully clothed.
You’re missing the point. Would you be defending her, if she she went around topless? If you simply google her name, you will see her outfits were not simply “jeans and t-shirts”. Many of her outfits left nothing to the imagination, and were worn to garner attention, which she got, may not have been the attention she wanted, but that’s what happens when you dress like that. If a guy wore a speedo into a WNBA locker room, and then said “those women were harrassing me”, what would be the reaction to that? I really doubt any of the defenders in her case, would come to his defense.
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| Originally Posted by The LD View Post You are such an astonishing asshole. |
why because he’s not taking the popular uber-liberal stance on something here on the boards? Man, yeah, he is a dick
So if a woman goes to a night club in a low-cut dress because she wants to attract guys and one of them gropes her outside the bathroom, we’re gonna tell her, “Hey, you went there to show off you body, what did you expect?”
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| Originally Posted by NickP View Post why because he’s not taking the popular uber-liberal stance on something here on the boards? Man, yeah, he is a dick |
Go pee in a jar or tear your bicep or hide porn from your wife or something else that you probably made up.
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| Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post So if a woman goes to a night club in a low-cut dress because she wants to attract guys and one of them gropes her outside the bathroom, we’re gonna tell her, “Hey, you went there to show off you body, what did you expect?” |
Dickson, what the hell? Since when are words equal to groping? Or am I missing the part of the story where she was groped?
NickP, she DIDN’T go in there topless. That’s a ridiculous point to make.
Like my post above, just because you’re asking for a certain kind of attention doesn’t mean you deserve any kind of attention you get.
Even if you think she’s setting low standards for herself, the players are no way obliged to lower themselves to meet them.
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| Originally Posted by joeypants View Post And you’re apparently an astonishingly uptight bore. What’s new? |
The concept that a woman doing her job in fairly normal attire for that job should consider not getting raped a pretty good day?
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| Originally Posted by NickP View Post But when I invent a totally different set of circumstances in my head, you people are hypothetically as upset! Fucking hypocrites! |
Seriously, dude.