by Renn Brown: link
We’ve lost a giant whose steps in the tech industry were so deep, the even changed the film industry at its core.
Christ Kate, it’s not Ghandi or Louis Pasteur we’re talking about here. God damn modern society needs its priorities examined.
I’m not trying to crap on the guy, he’s one of the best salesman and brand marketers there’ve been in the last century - I won’t take that away from him. The company he led has helped shape the tech environment more than any other in the last decade. Whether that’s a good thing or not is a matter of opinion.He’s also made many people very rich in the process - awesome.
So yes, he’s been a very influential man no question - but ‘great’, a ‘titan’ among men? I reserve that for people who have made the world a better place personally.
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Christ Kate, it’s not Ghandi or Louis Pasteur we’re talking about here. God damn modern society needs its priorities examined.
I’m not trying to crap on the guy, he’s one of the best salesman and brand marketers there’ve been in the last century - I won’t take that away from him. The company he led has helped shape the tech environment more than any other in the last decade. Whether that’s a good thing or not is a matter of opinion.He’s also made many people very rich in the process - awesome.
So yes, he’s been a very influential man no question - but ‘great’, a ‘titan’ among men? I reserve that for people who have made the world a better place personally.
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Don’t worry RD, I got the message from you when you called him a “salesman” and talked about some may “hate” him
He *is* a Titan, a once in a century individual. I feel lucky to have been alive in his time. Because make no mistake, we now exist in the Age of Steve Jobs
Jesus tap-dancing Christ.
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Jesus tap-dancing Christ.
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No. Steve Jobs
I’m curious, Rain Dog, do you consider all innovators and inventors to be worthy of such scorn? Did Edison not make the world better? Did Bell? What about the men who pioneered the railroads or space flight? I don’t know whether to call your grandstanding argument fucked or flawed. Probably…flawed.
Look I’m not going to get into a pissing contest about this. The guy was a truly amazing salesman, but to compare him to Edison and the like - people who actually changed the world for the better and made tangible and concrete advances to help all of humanity - is mind-boggling to me but then I get the feeling I’m going to end up arguing with zealots intent on tearing down the blasphemer.
I’m out, have fun with your hagiography.
RD isn’t heaping scorn on Jobs, he is rightfully heaping scorn on a delusional individual who felt a “physical gut-punch” from the death of a man she didn’t even know. She felt this “physical gut-punch” so much she was compelled to post her hyperbole in two separate threads as well as complain that the death of a tech giant wasn’t appropriate for the Tech Forum on these boards. Delusional.
What’s the over-under on him kicking this weekend and the family and company holding off the announcement until today to get past the product launch?
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For everyone else without an axe to grind, take a look at this Jobs anecdote and tell me he did not possess a uniquely superior intellect, that he did not represent the best in us, the best of our species:
His team developed dozens of sophisticated mock-ups and gathered to
present them to Jobs. “He picks up a marker and goes over to the
whiteboard,” remembers Evangelist, “He draws a rectangle. ‘Here’s the
new application,’ he says. ‘It’s got one window. You drag your video
into the window. Then you click the button that says BURN. That’s it.
That’s what we’re going to make.’”
…and back onto ignore she goes.
Thirty minutes, she lasted just thirty minutes. I only bothered because someone in power here thought she was worth a second chance.
Nup. Still isn’t.
Thanks for shitting all over the thread right from the start guys.
Joblessness brings out the worst in everyone.
Sorry, sorry.
I’m not a mac guy, but I know I probably should be. This is no tragedy; it’s a gauntlet thrown down. Top THAT by 56, motherfuckers. (mic drop)
AYou do much to honor Jobs and his legacy, Renn. APPLE loyalists will not forget it
PS You may wish to submit a link to your obit to apple at REMEMBERINGSTEVE@apple.com
I am sure it would do alot to warm their hearts
What’s with the “do much” speak? It’s vaguely terrifying
Feel sorry for his wife and kids and friends. nice obit, written from the heart obviously Renn, but at the end of the day the world will keep on turning and innovations will keep on happening.
I’m sure when Gates passes there will also be a lot of people calling him innovator, Titan etc.
I personally don’t know who I’d apply those labels to but it’s always sad to read of someone dying from cancer.
Well there you go, the person that cures cancer, there would be a titan.
condolences to his family.
(Sigh).
Steve Jobs created the first mass produced Personal Computer (PC). Prior to the Apple I & II, if you as an individual wanted a computer, you had to 1) spend big money for timeshare on a mainframe or 2) buy a kit which you then had to assemble, and sometimes you had to physically re-arrange circuits or components to make it work, and was very limited in what it could do.
In successive generations of the Mac PC, disparate elements like the Mouse, a GUI, etc. were incorporated into one intuitively easy to use device, which a large percentage of the population could buy and use in their homes.
Steve Jobs is directly responsible for that. He showed IBM, then later Microsoft et al what was possible with a PC. And the PC changed (for the better) every aspect of modern life, from science to Art to Film.
I don’t get why people on CHUD of all placed would disparage a man who’s contributions include high aesthetic standards, an intuitive sense for what a mass audience would enjoy using for commerce (EG Graphic Design was revolutionized by the Mac), entertainment and education.
Would you slam Spielberg for those qualities? Would you dismiss Kubrick for being a “great Salesman and Marketer”?
EDITED TO ADD: I have never owned a Mac PC, but I can recognize a major figure and appreciate his achievements.
Someone needs to watch PIRATES OF SILICON VALLEY. 
Just goes to show, even with more money than Christendom, when Death comes knocking, we all gotta pay the piper sometime.
A great man who has improved many people’s everyday life has passed away at the age of 56 and you bicker about whether he was more important than Gandhi, Edison or (insert your choice of super important person in history)? I can only agree with Renn here, “Thanks for shitting all over the thread right from the start guys.”
The world lost a great visionary today, as well as one of its best speakers (and I mean world-wide here). No matter what you think of Apple, you gotta admit the guy knew how to hold a speech and that the inventions under his leadership has helped push the technology forward. I raise my glass in his honor. Here’s to you, Mr. Jobs!
He will sorely be missed.
AHonestly a good guy who built out an amazing platform and really pushed the industry of film, music and software. I say pushed, not created.
Way of the future, way of the future, way of the future…
RIP
iPhone 4S - 4 Steve