I really really want someone to explain to me the rationale for why God should be in the pledge.
And the idea that this is a Christian nation is a bullshit one, so don’t even pull out that hackneyed response. If this country became 75% Hindu next year you wouldn’t want Ganesh to be invoked in your pledge.
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| Voltes & Keiko’s Riddle: Again, Verbal, you amaze me. Proves my theory even further… |
Tell the others… wink
You know, the more I think about it, the more I realize that God should not be in the pledge. I was just so used to saying it growing up that I never gave it a second thought. But now, after having a little time to reflect on it, I would say noone has the right to tell me what supreme being to believe in. Not that I don’t believe in God, But like I tell everyone I know, Just because I don’t go to church every Sunday doesn’t mean God and I aren’t kickin’ it watchin’ a football game together.
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| Rhinestone Cowboy: I was just so used to saying it growing up that I never gave it a second thought. |
That’s how it was with me.
And the more and more I think about it, the more I think kids are being brainwashed…
I was just talking to my Mom, and she thinks that during the period of time you would be saying the Pledge, there should just be a moment of silence. If someone wants to recite it to themselves, they can. If someone wants to pray, they can. Or if someone wants to stay quiet, they can.
Good idea.
Forcing kids to say it is bad in the first place.
Smart mom, you have.
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Thanks. I’ve taught her well, I suppose… wink
i for one, beleive in the seperation of church and state.
i too believe that my religious beliefs aren’t minimal. they are great and they have helped me a lot. i think it’s minimizing my faith to put GOD on some bill or pledge. to put the name GOD in a place were people lie and tons of hypocrital stuff goes on is very low for me (i’m referring to putting GOD in courthouses). But, that’s just me.
i understand the sacrmaneto man (had to be cali) and his constitutional right(s). but he too has to understand that there are lot of people in this country that are upset with the ruling.
i too understand the 77% that is upset with this ruling. but they too have to understand the freedom of the individual.
i too understand when someone thinks i’m delusional becasue i believe in a jewish carpenter that’s lives in the clouds. the individual hasn’t been through or experienced what i have.
it’s all about understanding each other. . .
I’ll bet you way fewer than 77% of the people are upset with this.
And even fewer would be upset if someone explained to them why God shouldn’t be in the pledge and that they should put something else in that space.
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| The Lord God: I’ll bet you way fewer than 77% of the people are upset with this. And even fewer would be upset if someone explained to them why God shouldn’t be in the pledge and that they should put something else in that space. |
all three polls waver between 69-70%.
btw,
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
If we take GOD (Creator) out of the picture, then who has endowed us with these rights? Man maybe? I hope for our collective souls not, because if these right where given to us by man then what is stopping man from taking those right away?
Why does the Constitution need to define who endowed man with jack shit? It’s just there for the flowery language.
And 1 dollar and any “of the minute” poll from a news station will get you a cup of coffee. They called 600 people for that “poll” It’s garbage.
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| The Lord God: Why does the Constitution need to define who endowed man with jack shit? It’s just there for the flowery language. |
uhm…i don’t know, you’re the protector of the constitution around here.
btw, it the declaration of independence.
I don’t think that God belongs in the Constitution either.
BTW, oops you’re right.
My bad.
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| The Lord God: I don’t think that God belongs in the Constitution either. |
Or perhaps in messageboard pseudonyms.
Thanks for the constructive addition to the thread!
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| The Lord God: Why does the Constitution need to define who endowed man with jack shit? It’s just there for the flowery language. |
I don’t know for sure about that. At that time, it would make sense to declare that God has given you freedom, because then that assumes that England has no right to take it. I don’t think they put a lot of flowery crap in there just to make it nice…a lot of thought was put into everything. They probably fought over the wording of that sentence.
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| The Lord God: BTW, oops you’re right. My bad. |
First time in two years that you admitted you were wrong about anything.
Hold me… I feel faint.
And the flamers arrive…
piranahpictures, you probably have a point - considering that the king of england took his authority from divine right…
Affirmation of religious values on a nation’s currency is both suspect and undemocratic. The verdict is entirely correct.