Originally Posted by BladeZero Once there’s an input, it’s out there for all to have. It’s something you can’t stop, no matter how much the product cost, it’s a medium that can be duplicated, and can be duplicated freely, it’s something that won’t stop and will continue to grow excessively no matter what your view on the subject.
Again, just because you CAN do something doesn’t make it a brilliant fucking idea. Right now, I COULD take a cheese grater and grate all the skin off my legs and then take a lemon juice and salt bath.
Thieves are thieves are thieves. Robin Hood is dead. Bit Torrent isn’t online distribution. Kazaa isn’t online distribution. To go “Oh, we’re supporting freedom” while depriving a studio that coughed up millions of dollars and 3 years of manpower of their hard-earned compensation is fucking stupid.
You know, in the middle of all this hand wringing (read the editorial at IGN and it’s hard not to picture the writer shaking with tears of silent rage…Jesus), I’ve gotta say that I really don’t care if anybody feels like downloading this game on November 9th, or 10th, or anytime after that. You want to send a fuck you to the system and get a free game in the process, that’s fine with me. What pisses me off is when overeager morons jump the gun months in advance and risk ruining the game for the rest of us. How long has Half-Life 2 been delayed because someone stole the source code? A year now? And that sucks.
I’m always happy when somebody bootlegs an unreleased album, because that means it usually arrives in stores faster. But bootlegging unreleased games seems to have the opposite effect. So, yeah, fuck these guys. Steal all you want, just don’t inconvenience me.
Obviously businesses need money to run. Artists need money invested to first produce their art, and they need to make money off their art.
I honestly have no idea how this is going to work in the future, I just know it’s going to be a lot different. I don’t think people will be making as much money in entertainment.
Originally Posted by Blunt Yeah honestly, I don’t believe that the delay was because of the source code theft. More like Valve making promises they couldn’t have possibly held.
Exactly. The game just wasn’t anywhere near finished. As we speak, they are hammering out the last of the bugs.
I’ll be first in line to buy it on Steam when it’s out.
Originally Posted by Slater I will say that I’m disappointed no maps from Halo 1 were carried over to the sequel. Blood Gulch, Prisoner and Death Island seemed like sure things.
Blood gulch was hardcore…a pity…
But who knows, maybe they’ll let us mod it…
I can always hope…
Everyone that I know that’s downloaded this has already pre payed for their copy of the game. And I’m sure many others that are downloading this game have also pre payed or are planning on buying this game when it’s released. It’s not so simple to just say everyone downloading this game is stealing the profits from Bungie, etc. Many of the people downloading the game are the same people who have or are going to buy the game.
Anyhow, Blade Zero…about that statement “entertainment should be free”. So how are the people making this entertainment supposed to make a living?
That new Halo 2 site is wierd as fuck, but pretty nifty and interesting.
Regarding BladeZero, there is a big difference between copying a CD and putting it on the net, and stealing the data before it’s released and then putting it on the net. Because stealing the data IS theft, they stole a copy from the printing factory and as a result have spoilt all the years of hype and secrecy regarding Halo 2’s plot. The plot now SHALL be spoiled, whether we in paticular learn of the spoilers or not. If it had gone on the net after it’s release, fair enough arseholes would still download it, but in doing so wouldn’t ruin it for the honest consumers. The plot wouldn’t be spoiled for us, and they wouldn’t have had the priviledge of playing the game before us for free, when we who play fair come last.
I think everyone else has already shot you down with your New World Order of entertainment theory, so I’m not going to bother. Needless to say, there is change coming with the advent of online file sharing, but it is not going to be the right to download whatever the fuck you want for free. Instead I imagine more official online distribution from studios (eventually they will start selling their own movies to download I imagine), with more advanced security methods for doing so.
I think we are losing sight of whats important here. The game. Whether or not something is stealing in the digital world is something that an individual’s conscience and the supreme court will decide.
YeLLoWsAmUeL putting a cd online and stealing a game ahead of time is not very different at all. In fact there’s no difference at all man. It’s like opening the vault and giving other peoples shit away for free. I think music has just become less taboo because people do it so much over the years. Same with using TiVo or a VCR to record movies and TV shows. Hell you have some pretty big companys profiting from a service that is basically stealing intellectual properties. Yet no one complains about that. And no there is no difference especially now that TiVo’s can even record onto a DVD. You can go back and forth debating what you consider to be piracy or not, but hell if you’re gonna have a bitch fit about one have a bitch fit about all of em. BTW Sam this wasnt directed at you or anything you just happened to be the last one to comment.
Not to condone stealing Halo 2 or anything, because i think Bungie deserves our gratitude(cash), but being angry because of spoilers is a load of shit too. Thats like being agry because someone finished the game before you did. Would anyone even be bitching about it if this happened next month? No cuz games get pirated all the fucking time, and no one says shit. Most are just angry that someone else has it before they do. Just wait till next month when this thread becomes the “ITS FINALLY OUT” thread, and even more copies of the US version are pirated, and no one even cares.
Hell if you dont want spoilers dont read anything that has to do with it. If you’re patient enough to wait for the game im sure youre patient stay away from Halo2 discussions, especially those sneaky ones labeled Spoilers. And no i havent pirated it either, i dont even have an xbox anymore. But if i did, i honestly would get both the pirated version and buy a copy when it came out. Why? Cuz if it leaked that’s their bad, i’m a fan, and whether i get it the day its released or tomorrow it makes no difference, especially if i’m buying both. But then thats just me, im sure there are people who will never buy it after downloading it.
The advantage Bungie has with Halo 2 is that even if people play the game a million times, they’re going to jump on the chance to buy it so they can play online, join clans, etc.
Seriously, this leak isn’t going to have any effect on sales at all. You could almost look at this leak as a glorified demo of the real deal (Halo 2 Multiplayer Online).
Breaking Benjamin, Hoobastank and Incubus have contributed to the soundtrack. I’m listening to the Breaking Benjamin “contribution” right now (from here ), and it’s making my balls shrink.
There will never be a soundtrack that everyone likes, no matter how many genres EA crowbar into their annual releases. I personally like Incubus and Hoobastank, although I know some people loathe them. Plus you dont know what context these songs will be used under, they may well just be over the ending credits.
Originally Posted by YeLLoWsAmUeL There will never be a soundtrack that everyone likes, no matter how many genres EA crowbar into their annual releases. I personally like Incubus and Hoobastank, although I know some people loathe them. Plus you dont know what context these songs will be used under, they may well just be over the ending credits.
EA has nothing to do with this. The Halo soundtrack was just fine. Actually, no. It was flat-out great. Know why? It was original. It was atmospheric. And it fit the game perfectly. Bungie don’t need commercial tie-ins with second-rate nu-metal bands because the 14-year-olds will buy the game regardless.
Besides, if I want to listen to power guitars while I blow shit up, I’ll turn down the volume on the TV and put on my own selection, thank you very much. Nor do I want to be greeted with a half-baked metal tune after I’ve sweated through the game on ‘Legendary’. Didn’t these people learn anything from the Oakenfold/Dave Matthews shitfest from the Matrix Reloaded?
Concerning the Halo 2 soundtrack and the Halo2 in-game music: Check out this article at 1UP.com.
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"Then they started talking about having a soundtrack that would be ready for release at the same time as Halo 2’s release. I knew that I wouldn’t be able to finish all the audio for the game, and mix a decent soundtrack at the same time, so Nile and I came up with a plan to have two soundtracks. Volume One, which would feature whatever music I had finished in time to have it included (which by the way is a majority of the album) and “inspired by” music from the bands that really love playing Halo and wanted to contribute something. Volume Two, to be released at a later date, will include all the remaining music of mine and perhaps some more “inspired by” stuff if that turns out to be cool.
First, it appears that songs on the soundtrack aren’t necessarily sounds in the game (a common practice for film OSTs). The “inspired by” crap will be the music from Hoobastank et al.
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Two of the bands that worked with Nile and contributed to the album also sent me instrumental mixes of their stuff. The music was based on my themes and I was pretty blown away by them. The deal was that I could use those pieces in the game at my discretion, and that’s what I did. I like how I used them, maybe you will too, we’ll see. Trust me, they’re an amazingly small percentage of the overall musical landscape of Halo 2, but I think they work great.
This is the stuff that’s actually making it into the game. It’s a little sucky… but at least it’s all instrumental (and hopefully extremely rare).
Anyway, I don’t think we have to worry about booting up Halo 2 on the 9th and hearing the music from Burnout 3.
Ya calm down everybody. WE arent going to be hearing hoobastank and breaking benjamins blaring through our surround sound speakers november 9th.
All these bands are fans of the game and have written some music inspired by it which will go on a second album. You won’t hear it in the game.
This instrumental stuff im sure will be handled very classy by Bungie’s Music Gurus because they arent idiots. All this stuff has come out near the game’s finishing also…which means the final version already has the in game music finalized.
Originally Posted by Micah Robinson I want to play the game as much as these guys if not more, but for Pete’s sake…fucking WAIT. The release date was firm. It’s definitely coming. Do something else with your life until then.
Originally Posted by devincf OK, I dled this Law and Order game. It comes as 2 folders, one for each CD. Each folder is full of rar files. The instructions are a little thin: 1. Unrar 2. Burn or mount with Daemon tools 3. Install 4. Play I unrar all of these to the folder they are in?
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Originally Posted by devincf More piracy help: I dled SW: KOTOR for the PC. It installs, but it’s not happy with my RAM (it wants 512, I have 511) and it doesn’t like my video card, but it seems that the game thinks it can still play. I start the game, I get this screen that looks like it’s working and then - poof. No crash, no nothing, the program just shuts down. Hints?
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Originally Posted by Nick Nunziata I hope these assholes get caught and punished to the full extent of the Covenant.
So do I, Nick, so do I.
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Originally Posted by Nick Nunziata You never know, maybe some people don’t realize that it’s harmful to download the stuff.