http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/31/...led/index.html
This is definitely going to have an impact on the abortion/supreme court dialogue for next few months.
It was probably a Christian.
Sad Yet another terrorist created by the Cult of Christianity
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| Originally Posted by BTSMGL View Post It was probably a Christian. |
If I said “It was probably a black guy” after reading about a car jacking, would I be a racist? Not saying you can’t be right but for fucks sake man.
Not remotely the same thing.
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| Originally Posted by Bailey View Post Not remotely the same thing. |
Explain. I’d love to hear you rationalize the outright hate some have around here and why it’s utterly acceptable to make those kind of comments.
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| Originally Posted by Bailey View Post Not remotely the same thing. |
It is, kind of.
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| Originally Posted by B_MetalSucks If I said “It was probably a black guy” after reading about a car jacking, would I be a racist? |
I wouldnt label it as racist. A gross generalization, yes. I personally dont see anything wrong with saying to yourself “It was probably a black guy” upon reading of a car jacking in South Central LA, for instance. Just like I personally dont see anything wrong with someone assuming the person who shot and killed this poor guy was a devout evangelical Christian.
In both cases youre probably right.
Then again, Im less proned to get my panties in a bunch about this type of stuff. But thats just me.
Asians are bad drivers, by the way.
Uhh… because a person’s race is completely incidental to stealing a car; but this hypocritical Christian ideology is of central importance to the abortion-violence issue.
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| Originally Posted by The Closer View Post It is, kind of. I wouldnt label it as racist. A gross generalization, yes. I personally dont see anything wrong with saying to yourself “It was probably a black guy” upon reading of a car jacking in South Central LA, for instance. Just like I personally dont see anything wrong with someone assuming the person who shot and killed this poor guy was a devout evangelical Christian. In both cases youre probably right. Then again, Im less proned to get my panties in a bunch about this type of stuff. But thats just me. Asians are bad drivers, by the way. |
Fair enough, and I get where you’re coming from with the context argument. But the anti-christian sentiment on the boards has really gotten pretty tacky lately. I get that there is a large portion of people on these boards who think me utterly retarded for believing in God. It just surprises me how hateful some can be in that regard.
What if somebody carjacks an abortion doctor? What then?
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| Originally Posted by Bailey View Post this hypocritical Christian ideology is of central importance to the abortion-violence issue. |
Actually, Christian ideaology abhors this sort of thing. You know, it is possible to be against abortion AND be against killing abortion doctors.
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| Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post What if somebody carjacks an abortion doctor? What then? |
The perp would probably look something like this:
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| Originally Posted by B_MetalSucks View Post Explain. I’d love to hear you rationalize the outright hate some have around here and why it’s utterly acceptable to make those kind of comments. |
Uhhh…saying it was not done by a crazy christian is kind of like saying Nazis did not kill most of the jews in Europe during the 1930s and 40s.
Unless the murder occurred for some personal or random reason that is not all related to the fact that Dr. Tiller performed abortions, there is not any other demographic that would pull this kind of stunt. I mean, if you can think of any other demographic of extremists that stand on the side of the road with posters of bloody unborn fetuses, let me know.
There’s multiple groups of people that steal cars.
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| Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post What if somebody carjacks an abortion doctor? What then? |
Black Christian, probably that preacher from Obama’s church which would prove Obama’s an atheist elitist who eats burgers with Grey poupon on them.
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| Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post What if somebody carjacks an abortion doctor? What then? |
Baptist.
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| Originally Posted by Bloody Wanker View Post Uhhh…saying it was not done by a crazy christian is kind of like saying Nazis did not kill most of the jews in Europe during the 1930s and 40s. Unless the murder occurred for some personal or random reason that is not all related to the fact that Dr. Tiller performed abortions, there is not any other demographic that would pull this kind of stunt. I mean, if you can think of any other demographic of extremists that stand on the side of the road with posters of bloody unborn fetuses, let me know. There’s multiple groups of people that steal cars. |
Bingo Chachi, you answered it for me. Until they actually show it’s some fundie moron who did this, could there be a possibility that the murder was motivated for another reason?
Oh and I never said a fundie didn’t do this, I was commenting on the generalization.
Nothing wrong with saying it was Chrisitian. I mean they’re the ones that are constantly making abortion a central religious issue. They are the ones that consistently speak of how it is an abomination upon the world and that the doctors who perform abortions are essentially commiting murder. No doubt in my mind it was a christian. Sadly, there won’t be enough outrage from the rational group and instead nothing but excuses from religious zealots.
Feel the Christian love
http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/8967610531.html
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| Originally Posted by Anakin’s Dad View Post Actually, Christian ideaology abhors this sort of thing. You know, it is possible to be against abortion AND be against killing abortion doctors. |
True. But what you’re describing is a rational christian. Which there are plenty of.
However, the people that generally make a big stink in public tend to be more interested in making a spectacle of their viewpoints. I’m not sure that the 4-year olds that are dragged to anti-abortion picket lines have strong viewpoints on abortion.
While the christian ideology does not support the methods performed by these wackos, the wackos that perform the crimes usually call themselves christians.
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| Originally Posted by History Buff View Post Nothing wrong with saying it was Chrisitian. I mean they’re the ones that are constantly making abortion a central religious issue. They are the ones that consistently speak of how it is an abomination upon the world and that the doctors who perform abortions are essentially commiting murder. No doubt in my mind it was a christian. Sadly, there won’t be enough outrage from the rational group and instead nothing but excuses from religious zealots. |
IF it turns out to be some crackpot who thinks he’s doing “gods work” I’ll gladly shout him down as being a monster who has no idea what God’s word means and I’m outraged at any murder regardless of affiliation.
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| Originally Posted by B_MetalSucks View Post If I said “It was probably a black guy” after reading about a car jacking, would I be a racist? Not saying you can’t be right but for fucks sake man. |
I don’t like broad generalizations about Christians. I was raised Baptist and respect a lot of very religious people, but it’s a realistic assumption. Glib and dickish, but realistic.