Wow that does not at all sound rational to me. That sounds terrifying
And now we have an Israel that openly disrespects the president of the united states, claiming he is a Jew hater, straight out. Top members of Israel’s government have said this. Netanyahu’s brother made such statements to the press
They show America contempt at envy turn
I have no faith they’d listen to us, nor have I been given any reason to think otherwise given their recent actions with settlements, etc etc etc
Wow that does not at all sound rational to me. That sounds terrifying
And now we have an Israel that openly disrespects the president of the united states, claiming he is a Jew hater, straight out. Top members of Israel’s government have said this. Netanyahu’s brother made such statements to the press
They show America contempt at envy turn
I have no faith they’d listen us, nor have I been given any reason to think otherwise given their recent actions with settlements, etc etc etc
All I’m trying to explain is traditional IR theory with respect to MAD and why a nuclear Iran is “bad” while a nuclear Israel is “acceptable” (which I think was the tenor of your question). I agree that it’s a terrible double standard, but I think that you give Iran entirely too much credit and Israel too little.
Fair enough, I respect your answer, and we can agree to disagree about Israel and Iran acting rationally. I think if you consider Israel’s constant war mongering towards Iran, and the fact that Israel has so many nuclear bombs that they won’t even confirm exist, Iran’s desire to protect itself makes perfect sense
Christ Kate, is there any topic you don’t have a definite, unwavering opinion on?
yes, I frequently state that I don’t have enough info to make up my mind on a given topic
you’re bothered I have an unwavering opinion on this issue in particular?
I’ve just never seen your mind changed on any topic by anyone. When you make your mind up, it’s made up apparently. When you’re proven demonstrably incorrect you retreat to “lets agree to disagree”.
I’m just saying if you put down the sword and the shield once in a while you might grow as a person, or something.
Eh, you’re a big girl, you’ll work it out..
Because Iran hasn’t repeatedly denied Israel’s right to exist? Give me a break. Whether or not the founding of Israel is legitimate is beyond the point. Israelis live there now. Say what you will about their policies vis-a-vis the Palestinians, we won’t live in a world where Israel will be wiped clean off the map. It’s not fair, rational, or realistic. We have the map we have.
Iran isn’t guiltless in this. Israel has the right to be concerned, given the people who run Iran and their expressed and avowed desire to push Israel into the Mediterranean Sea.
Sorry to derail folks.
It’s not a derail Spook, you make a good point.
The thing that a lot of people forget about Iran + atomic weaponry is that we don’t even know if they will succeed in constructing one within the foreseeable future. Keep in mind that the US is the only nation to build a nuclear weapon from scratch. Other countries either stole the technology (Russia, Israel) or had it given to them (Britain). Seems like every year since 2005 Iran has “been within 12 months of completing an atomic weapon.” I may be wrong, but while I see countries like Russia and North Korean supporting Iran in various military endeavors, I don’t see them outright providing blueprints on how to build a nuke.
If that was the case they probably would have completed a few by now.
I don’t think they’re even trying, frankly. That’s what they say when anyone asks. It would be suicide vis a vis the US.
It’s not baby bats in blankets, but this news item is pretty reassuring:
In American foreign policy, Iranians > Pirates. Good to know.
More evidence that Obama is a secret Muslim hell bent on having the US government bow to Tehran, obviously the source of all Muslim evil. Reagan would have drowned that fisherman with his bare hands in praise of baby Jesus.
Another Iranian nuclear scientist explodes:
That’s how President Keaton rolls, man.
This should give Ran Dog and Mr BananaGrabber some perspective!
Did the Parallax Corporation just tell me to assassinate a presidential candidate?
French reporter killed in Syria: Syria unrest: French journalist Gilles Jacquier killed - BBC News
Both sides blaming the other.
No! Don’t kill the Micronesian dude!
New war, same as the old war: (Armenia vs. Azerbaijan) http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-16/azerbaijan-amassing-arms-for-possible-karabakh-war-aliyev-says.html