Originally Posted by Big Jim Slade I like how you miss the point of this thread completely. SHE WHORED HERSELF OUT FOR MONEY TO PAY OFF GAMBLING DEBTS. Sorry we don’t call a spade a shovel here.
People whore themselves out all the time for a lot less than she has. Further, she announced this on national TV, which means she doesn’t see this as a negative. She used her talent to get ahead. And whether or not you approve of her “whoring” herself out, comments about her physical appearance, age, or past husbands has no bearing on the topic. If Pam was younger, prettier, and sexually “untainted” would that make what she did any better?
Originally Posted by Diva Yeah, but flip the switch. Guys who do the exact same thing don’t get the same amount of shit Pam is getting here. In fact, they are applauded for banging as many women as possible. And the odds are, there were a lot of undesirable women. I mean, just look at how you all are talking about Rick. Sure, people are saying he must hate his dick, but they aren’t saying anything about his personality or physical appearance.
Because who fucking knows what he looks like or acts like? If Rick Salomon walked into the White House tomorrow and cock slapped Laura Bush, nobody would say “Holy shit! It’s Rick Salomon!”
Originally Posted by Cow Puncher Because who fucking knows what he looks like or acts like? If Rick Salomon walked into the White House tomorrow and cock slapped Laura Bush, nobody would say “Holy shit! It’s Rick Salomon!”
Right… because if people did, that would make any difference in how everyone responded.
Originally Posted by Diva Further, she announced this on national TV, which means she doesn’t see this as a negative.
This is exactly why people give her shit. And as far as whether or not people would talk bad about somebody else who did what she did, well, I imagine anybody who compiles a resume like hers (multiple fuck tapes, marriages to people the caliber of Misters Lee and Rock, proudly paying down debts with sex) would get ragged on.
Nobody’s saying you can’t rag on Pam for what she did. But there’s no reason to call her an old, used-up skank. If you wouldn’t fuck her. Fine. But there are plenty of people who would. My point is that people should separate comments about her actions and behaviors and comments about her as a person.
Originally Posted by Diva My point is that people should separate comments about her actions and behaviors and comments about her as a person.
So we should judge her as a person based on what? That she looks pretty good for her age?
Salomon’s gotten nothing but shit from anyone in the thread too. No one’s trying to force her into a burka, but literally no one in the world has a better-publicized and more embarassing sexual resume. Yeah, people whore themselves out for less every day, but by and large they aren’t still collecting Baywatch royalties and bragging about it on TV.
Yes, but my progressive heart is warmed that it was her gambling debt and not her husband/boyfriend/father’s. I think we can all agree that with this story, sexism in America is officially dead.
Originally Posted by Diva My point is that people should separate comments about her actions and behaviors and comments about her as a person.
Diva, you’re a Ph.D. candidate in psychology, right? Surely you’re aware that the ancient Greeks believed that one’s inner life is irrelevant. What one does and says, according to this train of thought, defines what one is.
Consequently, if you think these people who thought up democracy have a point, comments about her behavior are comments about her as a person.
Originally Posted by Diva Nobody’s saying you can’t rag on Pam for what she did. But there’s no reason to call her an old, used-up skank. If you wouldn’t fuck her. Fine. But there are plenty of people who would. My point is that people should separate comments about her actions and behaviors and comments about her as a person.
You’re just mad because you didn’t get to post the gossip first. You’re very territorial that way…
Moreover, any attempt to separate the two is inherently foolish. Does whatever “internal essence” that we shouldn’t be commenting on not impact the actions she takes? I mean, that suggests that she is incapable of exerting control over her own life. Very strange.
I have to say, all male chauvinism aside, if any guy friend of mine had sex to pay off a gambling debt with the female equivalent of Rick Salomon, I’d probably be less than enthused for him.
Plus I’d like to think that Pam only whored out the part of her that was Pam Anderson, sexual icon. I believe deep down in my heart of hearts that Pam Anderson, person, is still as chaste as the first snowfall of the winter.
Originally Posted by Richard Dickson I think Pam lost the moral high ground when she had sex to pay off a debt.
It didn’t help when she announced it to the media either. If she hooked up with this guy on the sly, that’s all well and good - there really was no reason to mention the $250,000 debt. Pamela also publically admitted she has hepititis C, which from my understanding is no walk in the park, hence the shock that Solomon would even want to risk catching it by having sex with her.
Again, I personally don’t have a problem with Pamela Anderson; she’s an adult and can do whatever or whoever she wants - I just never saw the big hoopla over her. If anything, all the cosmetic work she’s had made her look a bit off to me. As I posted earlier, some of the choices in men she’s had weren’t exactly the greatest to me, and she keeps picking the same type of guy, despite knowing a relationship won’t last.
Salomon’s character was already suspect the moment he started bragging about the Paris Hilton tape and putting it out there for the world to see. Ordinarily (unless they’re swingers or something), if a couple makes a tape like this, it’s mostly for them to view, not for the rest of the planet.
Originally Posted by Richard Dickson I think Pam lost the moral high ground when she had sex to pay off a debt.
So does that mean I have to take back my offer to let Pam have sex with me as long as she takes care of my credit card debt and car payments… and my wife’s student loan?
Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 So does that mean I have to take back my offer to let Pam have sex with me as long as she takes care of my credit card debt and car payments… and my wife’s student loan?
Is that what it takes to get some Darkmite8 action? Shit. I gotta readjust my going rate then - I usually hold out for $50, a bag of Cheetos, and anything that glows-in-the-dark.
I find it hard to begrudge anyone judging Anderson on her looks, since that’s essentially what she does. She’s not a good actress, she doesn’t seem very bright, and she lacks charisma, IMO. She’s famous for looking the way she does.* I don’t think this is necessarily a gender issue, since you could say pretty much the same thing about… well, Fabio, I suppose (it probably says something about our culture that it took me a while to come up with a valid analogy - women can more easily make careers solely out of looking good than guys can).
On the other hand, I don’t think her sexual history is quite as damning as, say, Charlie Sheen’s. Sure, she’s been involved with some pretty scuzzy guys (and who knows how monogamous each relationship was?) and the idea that she offered sex to pay off gambling debts is fairly sleazy (although I get the impression she fancies herself sort of funny - perhaps her assessment of the situation was supposed to be a comedic exaggeration?); but Sheen fucked multiple porn stars and hookers in all kinds of configurations and doesn’t really get slammed the same way. It probably has a little to do with the fact that, onscreen, he’s not trading in on his sex appeal, but also a little to do with the fact that he’s a guy.
* And no, I wouldn’t. Not her and not Paris. I’m probably in the minority, but, Salomonly-speaking, I see the bland, vacant Barbie doll appearances of Hilton and Anderson as big steps down from Doherty and probably even Daily in the looks department. Anderson would be incredibly boring looking if not for the augmentations and, with them, she looks bizarre.