Yes no spoilers or spoilers posing as educated guess or speculation (somebody did the later in Season 4).
Can we follow this in order to follow this thread (or catch up it latter for those who can’t arrive here right on time).
before the first post about the episode that was just aired…
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| Episode 1 “Because you left”. |
ETA and some color if you want
I’m gonna do my best to get through the day and then get home and settle down for some Lost. I’ll probably end up watching it with my wife and my mom too, since we’re all fans. I like to tune in to the show and tune everything else out. My mom likes to ask questions while the show is on. Makes me nuts… I’ll need to lay down a ‘Commercials Are Discussion Time’ rule or I may lose my mind. I don’t want to miss a thing (thanks Aerosmith!).
And I too am really looking forward to the chewer discussion. You guys are the best.
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| Originally Posted by Rich Straceski View Post My mom likes to ask questions while the show is on. Makes me nuts… I’ll need to lay down a ‘Commercials Are Discussion Time’ rule or I may lose my mind. I don’t want to miss a thing (thanks Aerosmith!). |
This is actually one of my favorite parts of the show. My Mom is sooooo into it, and my phone will ring as soon as it fades to commercial if something crazy happened. My Mom will talk about it non-stop during the commercials and the instant it’s back on she says “bye” and hangs up on me.
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| Originally Posted by A-Pathetic View Post This is actually one of my favorite parts of the show. My Mom is sooooo into it, and my phone will ring as soon as it fades to commercial if something crazy happened. My Mom will talk about it non-stop during the commercials and the instant it’s back on she says “bye” and hangs up on me. |
I’ve got a friend that does this too - only with texts. I love it. Makes the show that much more fun to watch.
And my father’s a serial “talk-while-the-show/movie-is-playing” offender. If I were still at home he’d be driving me out of my mind each week (love ya, pop!). Rich, I say you set that rule and hold her to it. Sanity depends on such things.
Didn’t do the “start from season 1, ep 1 and go through latest season finale” this time. Just hit the high points in Season 3 and went through Season 4 to prepare for tonight. Looking forward to the discussion with everyone.
BTW…after the heft of the first three seasons, did Season 4 seem like a huge condensing to anyone else? I can understand the need to fit all of the plot beats into a specifically limited number of episodes now, but damn…there was some seriously great character stuff in the earlier seasons that I felt was missing in the most recent.
Not that what was there was bad, mind you.
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| Originally Posted by teledork View Post BTW…after the heft of the first three seasons, did Season 4 seem like a huge condensing to anyone else? I can understand the need to fit all of the plot beats into a specifically limited number of episodes now, but damn…there was some seriously great character stuff in the earlier seasons that I felt was missing in the most recent. Not that what was there was bad, mind you. |
I actually felt that season four was perfectly paced while giving the characters enough room to breeze. I deem this show a character show first and foremost but it was treading water in season three in my mind. There are only so much episodes where I can see Jacks sad face and the umpteenth time of seeing Kate on the run without any development. With the cast at hand it is going to be a hard job to juggle all of them while keeping the development of the characters rolling. But season four tied the mythology near perfect into the character arcs. Really looking forward to see how they are gonna approach this with all the time travelling issues that are at hand now.
My God, this is going to be a long, torturous 10 hours. Ten hours!! Faaaaack, it’s gonna be hard concentrating on any work today (and tomorrow, well, I’m already writing that off).
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| Originally Posted by teledork View Post Didn’t do the “start from season 1, ep 1 and go through latest season finale” this time. Just hit the high points in Season 3 and went through Season 4 to prepare for tonight. Looking forward to the discussion with everyone. BTW…after the heft of the first three seasons, did Season 4 seem like a huge condensing to anyone else? I can understand the need to fit all of the plot beats into a specifically limited number of episodes now, but damn…there was some seriously great character stuff in the earlier seasons that I felt was missing in the most recent. Not that what was there was bad, mind you. |
Personally, I feel like it’s a ‘grass is always greener’ thing. Part of what gave them the space to explore the characters in the detail that they did was the open-ended, ongoing, no-end-in-sight status of the show, along with a longer season.
That gave us some exquisite character moments, but also gave us filler and water-treading.
Now we’re getting the meaty stuff, with less of the meandering of before, so it’s a trade off.
I look at the show much like I’d look at a novel - the first 2/3’s are typically where the character stuff tends to flower, with the last 1/3 devoted to the ramping up of plot and tension.
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| Originally Posted by Jesse Custer View Post I look at the show much like I’d look at a novel - the first 2/3’s are typically where the character stuff tends to flower, with the last 1/3 devoted to the ramping up of plot and tension. |
Last season had Ben using Smokey against the mercs and that episode was an exquisite blend of tension, big arc and character stuff.
IMO there’s not enough praise for The Constant.
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| Originally Posted by Feral Akodon View Post IMO there’s not enough praise for The Constant. |
That episode is consistently cited as a/the favorite by the fans of the show I’ve spoken to.
The Constant gets a lot of love.
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| Originally Posted by Feral Akodon View Post IMO there’s not enough praise for The Constant. |
Many people have called The Constant the Best moment on TV of 2008. And it will be hard to top that episode.
ETA: Beaten by Jesse. Again.
If anything, The Constant is overpraised. It didn’t hit me the way it seems to everyone else, probably because Desmond’s never been my favorite character.
Rewatched “The Constant” last night and found it to be as engrossing as the first time around. Desmond and Penny’s Christmas Eve phonecall remains one of the most emotional moments I’ve ever witnessed on a television show.
I don’t actually dislike it, so I’m not going to try to change anyone’s mind. I just think it’s absurd to call it underpraised; it’s received nothing but accolades here and everywhere else I’ve seen. It’s probably the most highly-praised episode of the entire run (the S3 finale being the only real competition).
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| Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post It’s probably the most highly-praised episode of the entire run (the S3 finale being the only real competition). |
Agreed.
I don’t have a deep affection for Desmond or Penny either, but I truly admired the way the episode was plotted, structured and acted, and I thought that the emotion of it was earned (even factoring in that I’m not a Desmond/Penny devotee).
I see that Jan has my back as usual. Jan, do you get the episodes on the same schedule that America does (ie: Will you be starting to watch the show in 3 hours or so)? If so, I envy your being ahead of me in time.
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| Originally Posted by Jesse Custer View Post I see that Jan has my back as usual. Jan, do you get the episodes on the same schedule that America does (ie: Will you be starting to watch the show in 3 hours or so)? If so, I envy your being ahead of me in time. |
Cheers. But unfortunately our schedule is way different over here. We just got the beginning of season 4 on Monday. Sufficient to say that I have to escape on other, uhm, sources. But I feel morally safe for buying the DVD sets as soon as they are published. So please be easy on me.
Mother of God, I cannot wait for tonight! I don’t know why, but it seems the between season wait wasn’t as bad this year.
Also, I’ll likely watch the recap, just because I’m so excited. I’ll be at a friends watching in HD on a big ass projector, so it’ll be a kind of geeky party atmosphere. Perfect for a recap episode.
I don’t think the season wait was as long. No writer’s strike!
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| Originally Posted by Jan View Post Many people have called The Constant the Best moment on TV of 2008. And it will be hard to top that episode. ETA: Beaten by Jesse. Again. |
That day I was having problems with the wi-fi but you stole the thread after your comment about that episode.
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