LOST - Season 4

With the TCA and Comic-Con stuff coming up, it looks like the writers are starting to break their “radio silence” just a bit so I thought it would be a good time to start up this thread, especially since this is now on the Internet (it’s the Station Six, The Orchid, Orientation Film that was shown at Comic-Con).

I hate to call this an “Orientation Film” as much as I’d like to call it “WHEN ORIENTATION FILMS GO HORRIBLY WRONG”.

For some reason the sound didn’t work for me on the link. The source of the clip does work

It’s in Spanish, the site, and it also has the Comi Con Lost panel.

I’m curious if this is actual footage to be aired on the show or just something for the Comic Con. If the former, I’m really intrigued about the dual #15 rabbits.

*Edit: This is interesting. It was posted in the comments to the site Matt posted:

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This was posted in the LostLive part of the aurw, for the CC threads, but since this is the front page, it bears repeating. The good Doc mentions the Casimir effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect The relevant bit for us LOST obsessives: The Casimir effect or Casimir-Polder force is a physical force exerted between separate objects, which is due to neither charge, gravity, nor the exchange of particles, but instead is due to resonance of all-pervasive energy fields in the intervening space between the objects. Hmmmm…sounds like something that might be relevant, right? :slight_smile: What happens in the film is that bunny #15 suddenly appears on the top shelf after it starts going haywire in the area the Doc is in. Could Jacob simply be a person trapped in the space between the objects that the Casimir effect describes and which are present in Ben’s “Magic Box” and that’s why he cried out for help to John? For you time travel theorists, the Wikipedia article has this: Exotic matter with negative energy density is required to stabilize a wormhole[1]. Morris, Thorne and Yurtsever[2] pointed out that the quantum mechanics of the Casimir effect can be used to produce a locally mass-negative region of space-time, and suggested that negative effect could be used to stabilize a wormhole to allow faster than light travel I don’t care WHY this film was shown at ComicCon, all I care about is the nuggets of info it containes, like the Casimir effect. As a total Man of Science, I wouldn’t be as big a fan of this show if the more out there parts didn’t have a least a basic grounding in the scientifically possible --I’m not a sci-fi person in the slightest-- and the mention of the Casimir Effect is right in line with that.

Wasn’t the bunny Ben faked having a heart attack with marked #15? If so, that’s a long damn time for a bunny to live. Unless, of course, they just keep making copies of them.

The clip feels gaggy. Oh, and if you’re having audio troubles, just fiddle with the volume slider- for some reason, it defaulted to mute on my machine until I adjusted the slider.

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Originally Posted by Greg Clark Wasn’t the bunny Ben faked having a heart attack with marked #15? If so, that’s a long damn time for a bunny to live. Unless, of course, they just keep making copies of them.

I recall it being marked #8.

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Better posting this here than having another ChunkyLover thread about a crappy game.

This looks like Ana Lucia’s face.

I really hope the show doesn’t go in the time travel direction. I believe the show’s creator actually debunked that at one point. I guess it could work but time travel stuff always feels so akward and always has plot holes.

I have been thinking about who is in the coffin at the end of the season three finale. I have also been rewatching the first season. In doing so, I have noticed some events that seem rather synchronous. Firstly, the episode in season one where Jack finds his dad’s coffin is titled “White Rabbit.” This aligns with the title of the season 3 finale, “Through the Looking Glass.” I have also noticed that it is in this episode that Jack’s father tells him that “he will never have what it takes to accept failure, if he is not able to save everyone.” As we see in the season 3 finale, Jack obviously does not have what it it takes to deal with the failure of not saving everyone. I also noticed that the coffins in both episodes look suspiciously similar as can be seen on lostpedia. I then noticed the amount of anguish Jack is in when he is dealing with the death of his father in “White Rabbit.” This is pretty parallel with the feelings Jack expresses in the season 3 finale. Jack opens the coffin in “White Rabbit” only to find no corpse. This infuriates Jack and he proceeds to smash the coffin with a bat. In the season 3 finale, when the funeral director asks Jack if he would like the coffin to be opened, Jack, with an extremely pained look on his face, almost like he is scared, says no. There is no one at the funeral. Jack asked his mother in “White Rabbit” why she doesn’t send one of his father’s friends to pick him up in Australia. She replies “He doesn’t have any friends anymore.” I don’t know how or why, but I believe it is Christian Shepard in that coffin. I know Jack says he is neither friend nor family, but I just know it is Christian.

*edited to say: I have no inside information. This is just my theory.

" time travel stuff always feels so akward and always has plot holes."

I don’t know if it’s lost in the annals of the boards or not, but at some point HAM (I think) and I got into a serious discusion of plot holes, time travel, and the Terminator.

Time travel stories often have plot holes because the creator doesn’t think it through. Conversely, those who are well mapped and thought out don’t tend to have the plot holes, but people still claim they do because their brain doesn’t think that way.

BTW…great board name

I’m pissed that Richard Alpert isn’t coming back. They better at least kill him off. They can’t introduce him and then just have him vanish off the island. He was being set up as a pretty important character.

Lindelof dug himself into a hole when he couldn’t figure out how to make him more gay.

Where is it announced that Nelson Whateverhisname isn’t coming back as Alpert?

Carbonel, I think. And I could have swore they said he would come back, but he would be very limited because he has a whole new show on some other channel. It’ll probably get canceled anyway.

Am I particularly slow for not knowing anything about the real-life Richard Alpert? I’m assuming I just missed this being discussed before…

From Wikipedia:

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Dr. Richard Alpert (born April 6, 1931), also known as Baba Ram Dass (बाबा राम दासWink, is a contemporary spiritual teacher who wrote the 1971 bestseller Be Here Now. He is well-known for his association with Timothy Leary at Harvard University in the early 1960s, both having been dismissed from their professorships for experiments on the effects of psychedelic drugs on human subjects. He is also known for his travels to India and his association with the Hindu guru Neem Karoli Baba.

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Originally Posted by Zollicoffer Carbonel, I think. And I could have swore they said he would come back, but he would be very limited because he has a whole new show on some other channel. It’ll probably get canceled anyway.

I know that he is on CANE or whatever that Jimmy Smits show is on CBS. I don’t think it will get canceled because it fits the CBS viewer demographic perfect (family drama).

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Originally Posted by Zollicoffer Carbonel, I think. And I could have swore they said he would come back, but he would be very limited because he has a whole new show on some other channel. It’ll probably get canceled anyway.

I think at ComicCon, L&C were quoted as saying “don’t get too attached to him” because of his new show. This leads me to believe that they aren’t writing him in to many (if any) new episodes because of his commitment to Kane. They don’t want to write for him if he’s not going to be able to be in the show. The show might get canceled, but if Lost starts filming episodes in the fall he’ll still be unavailable. Yikes.

This is sucky news. He’s the one new character that I’m dying to learn more info about.

Back to the coffin…

…is it just me, or does anyone else think that coffin looked a little small?

I don’t know why this hadn’t been brought up much… unless I’m just seeing things.