Joss Whedon's Dollhouse

That’s some damn fine tv right der now.

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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post

The two standing behind Dushku, those are real people? They’re not Poser 3D models?

I don’t really get why people think this will be cancelled immediately. It’s not like Joss has a string of failed TV shows behind him, Buffy reached it’s conclusion and although Angel was cancelled prematurely it still made it to five seasons. Besides, this sort of sci-fi thing is very in right now.

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Originally Posted by Jona View Post I don’t really get why people think this will be cancelled immediately.

It’s on Fox.

EW article on the show

Before rejoining NBC in May 2004, Reilly served as President of Entertainment for FX, where he developed and launched the cable network’s first original drama, The Shield. He also developed and programmed Nip/Tuck and the Denis Leary show Rescue Me for the network.

At NBC, Reilly’s vocal support of The Office helped it survive its low-rated first season. He is credited with developing hits such as My Name Is Earl, Heroes, 30 Rock, and Friday Night Lights

So what if it’s on Fox, Reilly ain’t the old management

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Originally Posted by Ratty View Post However, Eliza’s low-cut dress made up for it.

The gravest of all atrocities could be salvaged the same way.

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Originally Posted by neoolong View Post What’s with the bare feet? Whedon have a foot fetish or something?

Feels like them going barefoot just adds to the slavery vibe of the concept of Dolls.

Another point I forgot to make.

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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post It’s on Fox. EW article on the show

I like how they credit Acker with Alias and not Angel.

Dollhouse set pics

What a beautiful set.

Look’s like the show is experiencing more production problems, as production has shut down for two weeks so Whedon can “re-tool” the scripts:

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A person familiar with the thinking of some Fox executives told TelevisionWeek that there have been concerns raised inside the network about the fundamental underpinnings of the show. Specifically, because the heroine of the show, played by Eliza Dushku, has no free will or ability to do much beyond what she’s told to do, viewers might find it hard to root for her. In addition, some executives have expressed concerns that early episodes of the series have been confusing and hard to follow.

Sounds like Fox executives up to their old tricks again.

You would think Whedon has earned a bit of clout(or was Buffy WB? I can’t remember. Never watched it). And why the fuck is he still working with Fox after Firefly?

All this reminds me too much of the TV Set. Test screenings for television would have killed some of the all-time greats, not saying this will be great, or even good, just saying.

You guys realize this is a completely different regime at Fox TV then the one that fucked Whedon over previously, right? That the guy running the network is the same guy who nurtured “The Office” and “30 Rock” and “Friday Night Lights” and helped develop “The Sopranos,” “The Shield,” “Rescue Me,” and “Nip/Tuck?” You can look at all execs with some skepticism, true, but Kevin Reilly is one of the “good” ones.

This seems like a troubled production, and I can’t help but think that Whedon’s the guy to blame on this one if it winds up sucking. If it’s great, awesome. But the concept was literally written on a napkin, the script I read didn’t thrill me, and nothing I’ve seen has sold me hook line and sinker, either. And I worship at the altar of Joss.

Also, Whedon’s history with Fox goes far beyond Firefly. He did a lot of his early script-doctoring on Fox movies, and Buffy was developed at Fox.

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Originally Posted by RathBandu View Post You guys realize this is a completely different regime at Fox TV then the one that fucked Whedon over previously, right? That the guy running the network is the same guy who nurtured “The Office” and “30 Rock” and “Friday Night Lights” and helped develop “The Sopranos,” “The Shield,” “Rescue Me,” and “Nip/Tuck?” You can look at all execs with some skepticism, true, but Kevin Reilly is one of the “good” ones.

Then he goes to Fox and brings such great shows as The Wall, Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader, and that lie detector shit. Hardly The Office and 30 Rock. And the new “comedies” on Fox look like shit too.

Everytime something negative comes out I think of this


Except with Whedon. The guy has a proven track record when he is in control.
Can anyone put Whedon in that?

I am not optimistic at this point.

Can someone translate that blog post for me? My Whedon-to-English dictionary is not working again.

Basically, Whedon completely threw out the pilot, which he’d already shot something like 40 percent of, and is shooting it again from scratch.

Honestly, that sounds pretty good to me. Having someone to hold back his most out-there impulses, even if that someone is the evil FOX, may prevent the show from becoming Studio 60. Or from becoming as wordy and ridiculous as that blog post.